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	<title>Comments on: Executive Director of the Minnesota Amateur Sports Commission Explains New Pro Soccer Team Proposed for Minnesota</title>
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		<title>By: HandoHenry</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>HandoHenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Tom, you are certainly correct about freedom of choice in a capitalist system.

Let&#039;s consider the following hypothetical situation while keeping in mind the end goal of MTA is to raise the level of soccer in Minnesota.  

XX is a solid C1 player on his community club team.  The team has a thin roster as his community club also has an MRL team at his age level.  XX along with 1 another player from his team and 1 from the MRL leave their community club in hopes of making a select MTA team the players are placed on MTA teams follow tryouts (lets say 1 at select, 2 at C1).  Meanwhile, back at the community club a C1 player gets pulled up to fill in for the departing MRL player and the C1 team is all of a sudden has three fewer players and ends up not being formed as there is not enough players.

To me a situation like the one above (granted this hasn&#039;t happened at every community club but I assure you it has happened) does not raise the level of soccer in MN.  In my opinion it weakens the level of soccer in MN as it leaves 12 soccer players abandoned without a squad.

Perhaps MTA should have focused on building their select program first then expanding to a full fledged club...thus the exodus from the community clubs would not have been so drastic.  Or perhaps they should have opened up the regional centers at the younger ages first thus minimizing the effects on community clubs.

Simply food for thought.  I think its a good thing to provide top-level training/competition but wish this could be done without a negative impact on the community clubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Tom, you are certainly correct about freedom of choice in a capitalist system.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s consider the following hypothetical situation while keeping in mind the end goal of MTA is to raise the level of soccer in Minnesota.  </p>
<p>XX is a solid C1 player on his community club team.  The team has a thin roster as his community club also has an MRL team at his age level.  XX along with 1 another player from his team and 1 from the MRL leave their community club in hopes of making a select MTA team the players are placed on MTA teams follow tryouts (lets say 1 at select, 2 at C1).  Meanwhile, back at the community club a C1 player gets pulled up to fill in for the departing MRL player and the C1 team is all of a sudden has three fewer players and ends up not being formed as there is not enough players.</p>
<p>To me a situation like the one above (granted this hasn&#8217;t happened at every community club but I assure you it has happened) does not raise the level of soccer in MN.  In my opinion it weakens the level of soccer in MN as it leaves 12 soccer players abandoned without a squad.</p>
<p>Perhaps MTA should have focused on building their select program first then expanding to a full fledged club&#8230;thus the exodus from the community clubs would not have been so drastic.  Or perhaps they should have opened up the regional centers at the younger ages first thus minimizing the effects on community clubs.</p>
<p>Simply food for thought.  I think its a good thing to provide top-level training/competition but wish this could be done without a negative impact on the community clubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one of the beauties of capitalism here in America is folks can choose whatever they feel is best for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one of the beauties of capitalism here in America is folks can choose whatever they feel is best for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Quarstad</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Quarstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, your last paragraph hits the nail on the head I believe. I think that is what many community clubs would argue. MTA feels their coaching is better. But that is indeed the core of the argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, your last paragraph hits the nail on the head I believe. I think that is what many community clubs would argue. MTA feels their coaching is better. But that is indeed the core of the argument.</p>
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		<title>By: HandoHenry</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>HandoHenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, apologies for jumping the gun and saying MTA was going under.  I combined a bit of rumor (that MTA approach St. Micheal  with the news that the Thunder pro-franchise was struggling and made an assumption...my bad.

However, despite that piece of information being incorrect the rest of my post is quite relevant.  More and more players are leaving MTA to return to local clubs (i&#039;d expect more players to do so if MTA reverts to Bangu/Wings) and in no way is this &#039;beneficial&#039; to the local clubs for the reason outlined above.  

I believe the MTA select teams are quality and providing a great opportunity for top-class MN soccer talent in the sense of training, regional competition, and college exposure.  Which, I might add, was definately needed.  I do, however, question whether there is any real advantage for a U14C2 player to play with MTA versus their local club...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, apologies for jumping the gun and saying MTA was going under.  I combined a bit of rumor (that MTA approach St. Micheal  with the news that the Thunder pro-franchise was struggling and made an assumption&#8230;my bad.</p>
<p>However, despite that piece of information being incorrect the rest of my post is quite relevant.  More and more players are leaving MTA to return to local clubs (i&#8217;d expect more players to do so if MTA reverts to Bangu/Wings) and in no way is this &#8216;beneficial&#8217; to the local clubs for the reason outlined above.  </p>
<p>I believe the MTA select teams are quality and providing a great opportunity for top-class MN soccer talent in the sense of training, regional competition, and college exposure.  Which, I might add, was definately needed.  I do, however, question whether there is any real advantage for a U14C2 player to play with MTA versus their local club&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Quarstad</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2846</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Quarstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTA did not go under. HandoHenry, I have NO IDEA where you got that from. It never says it in any of my posts, only that MTA is doing well financially. In addition, none of the comments left on this blog say that either. You need to slow down and read carefully. MTA is doing quite well. The only change that could happen is that they go back to being called Bangu and Wings because of the financial mess that Thunder are in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTA did not go under. HandoHenry, I have NO IDEA where you got that from. It never says it in any of my posts, only that MTA is doing well financially. In addition, none of the comments left on this blog say that either. You need to slow down and read carefully. MTA is doing quite well. The only change that could happen is that they go back to being called Bangu and Wings because of the financial mess that Thunder are in.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>???? I must have missed something.  When did MTA go under?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>???? I must have missed something.  When did MTA go under?</p>
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		<title>By: HandoHenry</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>HandoHenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was said in the comments that;

&quot; What no one talks about is the fact that players from the MTA went back to the local clubs better trained then before. It was a revolving door which benefited local clubs.&quot;

Sure, in a way this makes sense.  SOME of the players who went off to MTA did return to their local club with increased skills, however, many did not make significant improvement.

What the poster really misses, however, is that many local clubs were forced to replace departing players with those from lower squads and in many those players have been playing up for a year or two or have been told they will be on that same team next season.  But, now that MTA is under there is the problem of the MTA kids coming back to the local club and either over-crowding a roster or forcing a player back down to a lower competition level.  Certainly not beneficial to the local clubs who now have to manage rosters, angry parents, and frustrated players.  


In all honesty, in a way I am glad MTA went under.  The select teams were great and on those teams the promises made by MTA were followed through on.  However, the lower level MTA teams were overlooked the the promises were never delievered on and I just never thought that was a fair scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was said in the comments that;</p>
<p>&#8221; What no one talks about is the fact that players from the MTA went back to the local clubs better trained then before. It was a revolving door which benefited local clubs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, in a way this makes sense.  SOME of the players who went off to MTA did return to their local club with increased skills, however, many did not make significant improvement.</p>
<p>What the poster really misses, however, is that many local clubs were forced to replace departing players with those from lower squads and in many those players have been playing up for a year or two or have been told they will be on that same team next season.  But, now that MTA is under there is the problem of the MTA kids coming back to the local club and either over-crowding a roster or forcing a player back down to a lower competition level.  Certainly not beneficial to the local clubs who now have to manage rosters, angry parents, and frustrated players.  </p>
<p>In all honesty, in a way I am glad MTA went under.  The select teams were great and on those teams the promises made by MTA were followed through on.  However, the lower level MTA teams were overlooked the the promises were never delievered on and I just never thought that was a fair scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Super Rookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Rookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way this Michel thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way this Michel thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Quarstad</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/11/19/executive-director-of-the-minnesota-amateur-sports-commission-explains-new-pro-soccer-team-proposed-for-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Quarstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark. I guess I meant actual legitimate professional journalist, which I am certainly not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark. I guess I meant actual legitimate professional journalist, which I am certainly not.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Quarstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Quarstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do a search at my site you will see that when MYSA was decided not to sanction NSC&#039;s tourneys, I wrote several articles on the NSC and one in particular broke down the finances and how much money NSC brings into MN per year. Its pretty amazing. You are correct about the money spent at MOA for instance let alone the hotels and other stores and fast food in the area. Check this out:

http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/03/16/controversy-rises-again-between-mysa-and-nsc/

Direct quote from me in the above article:

&quot;Of the 361,000 spectators roughly 40% come from outside Minnesota. This puts the out of state economic impact at about $30 million, just for the ten days of these two tournaments. The sales tax alone on this is a bit over $2 million. Has anyone been at the Mall of America during the USA Cup? During that week, MOA is packed with soccer players and their families. I’m sure if I delved into this further I could come up with figures of how the city of Blaine is impacted by not just these two tournaments but all of the NSC tournaments. In recent years there’s been tremendous growth of retail stores and restaurants in direct proximity to the National Sports Center. There is no doubt there is a direct correlation between the growth of attendance at NSC and the growth of retail in this area.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do a search at my site you will see that when MYSA was decided not to sanction NSC&#8217;s tourneys, I wrote several articles on the NSC and one in particular broke down the finances and how much money NSC brings into MN per year. Its pretty amazing. You are correct about the money spent at MOA for instance let alone the hotels and other stores and fast food in the area. Check this out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/03/16/controversy-rises-again-between-mysa-and-nsc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/03/16/controversy-rises-again-between-mysa-and-nsc/</a></p>
<p>Direct quote from me in the above article:</p>
<p>&#8220;Of the 361,000 spectators roughly 40% come from outside Minnesota. This puts the out of state economic impact at about $30 million, just for the ten days of these two tournaments. The sales tax alone on this is a bit over $2 million. Has anyone been at the Mall of America during the USA Cup? During that week, MOA is packed with soccer players and their families. I’m sure if I delved into this further I could come up with figures of how the city of Blaine is impacted by not just these two tournaments but all of the NSC tournaments. In recent years there’s been tremendous growth of retail stores and restaurants in direct proximity to the National Sports Center. There is no doubt there is a direct correlation between the growth of attendance at NSC and the growth of retail in this area.&#8221;</p>
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