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	<title>Comments on: NASL v USL Update &#8211; 12/14/09</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/12/14/nasl-v-usl-update-121409/#comment-3734</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, guys. Come on, Mr. Gulati,. Come on USL. Let&#039;s be real. It&#039;s over for you (USL) and time for some fresh ideas. The season is just 4 months away. The longer this mess between USL and TOA/NSAL gets tied up in politics and courts, the worse this becomes for US soccer development, promotion of the game and overall fan interest. USSF has to come out soon if this NASL is to kick off this season. Let&#039;s hope so. The integrity of soccer and its leagues depends on it. Perhaps this new NASL can be what the old one should have been if those owners were smarter, wiser and less greedy and foolish. Name recognition instantly puts them on the map. Go NASL! Remember, Chignaglia, remember, Pele and Cruyf and Franz Beckenbauer, remember Rodney Marsh and Alan Willey, remember Shep Messing and Ace Nitsolungue and Branko Segota. Remember those guys, yes remember. The old is becoming the &quot;new.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, guys. Come on, Mr. Gulati,. Come on USL. Let&#8217;s be real. It&#8217;s over for you (USL) and time for some fresh ideas. The season is just 4 months away. The longer this mess between USL and TOA/NSAL gets tied up in politics and courts, the worse this becomes for US soccer development, promotion of the game and overall fan interest. USSF has to come out soon if this NASL is to kick off this season. Let&#8217;s hope so. The integrity of soccer and its leagues depends on it. Perhaps this new NASL can be what the old one should have been if those owners were smarter, wiser and less greedy and foolish. Name recognition instantly puts them on the map. Go NASL! Remember, Chignaglia, remember, Pele and Cruyf and Franz Beckenbauer, remember Rodney Marsh and Alan Willey, remember Shep Messing and Ace Nitsolungue and Branko Segota. Remember those guys, yes remember. The old is becoming the &#8220;new.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/12/14/nasl-v-usl-update-121409/#comment-3733</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Promotion and relegation is the key issue to succes for soccer in this country; as long as some powerfull interests keep being suscessful delaying this to happen, soccer would not be what it should in america.
  
  I wish the new NASL luck, they are the best shot for the real soccer fans.If the new NASL adopt promotion and relegation, and opens the door for new clubs  (no franchises please) with reasonabe fees,  we should support it.
      Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Promotion and relegation is the key issue to succes for soccer in this country; as long as some powerfull interests keep being suscessful delaying this to happen, soccer would not be what it should in america.</p>
<p>  I wish the new NASL luck, they are the best shot for the real soccer fans.If the new NASL adopt promotion and relegation, and opens the door for new clubs  (no franchises please) with reasonabe fees,  we should support it.<br />
      Roger</p>
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		<title>By: jonf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the biggest problem with keeping US soccer from growing is SUM. I am not sure how most federations and clubs interact on economic level but im sure they are not like US. Now is the time for a league like NASL. Thier initial perspective, and its early and it might be all hype, is they are jumping in deep into the game. We need a league that is going to push MLS and USL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the biggest problem with keeping US soccer from growing is SUM. I am not sure how most federations and clubs interact on economic level but im sure they are not like US. Now is the time for a league like NASL. Thier initial perspective, and its early and it might be all hype, is they are jumping in deep into the game. We need a league that is going to push MLS and USL.</p>
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		<title>By: fotbalist</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/12/14/nasl-v-usl-update-121409/#comment-3636</link>
		<dc:creator>fotbalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks BQ for maintaining integrity and respect as a mandatory requirement of participation in this dialogue. I read many sites, because I enjoy being informed, but I very seldom participate in discussions precisely because of the absence of respect. Keep IMS respectful.

For the sake of further learning: Does anyone have any info on how other countries (national federations) deal with competing D2 leagues? I&#039;d be curious to know more about that aspect. Perhaps there&#039;s a scenario somewhere in the world that can teach us some things, which we can further develop/adjust/grow into our own system. Look forward to more info on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BQ for maintaining integrity and respect as a mandatory requirement of participation in this dialogue. I read many sites, because I enjoy being informed, but I very seldom participate in discussions precisely because of the absence of respect. Keep IMS respectful.</p>
<p>For the sake of further learning: Does anyone have any info on how other countries (national federations) deal with competing D2 leagues? I&#8217;d be curious to know more about that aspect. Perhaps there&#8217;s a scenario somewhere in the world that can teach us some things, which we can further develop/adjust/grow into our own system. Look forward to more info on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the NASL all the luck with the new league. USSF better support their league.

I wish USL the best of luck but the best thing you can do is get rid of King Marcos and run the leagues in the clubs&#039; best interests. Not Marcos&#039; interest, not Sporting Lisbons, Portugals, 6 people in Tampa Bay, etc.

NASL will be fair and fun. I hope it becomes the dominant minor league and even starts biting at the ankles of MLS, forcing them to improve and not to become complacent with their monopoly. GOOD LUCK NASL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the NASL all the luck with the new league. USSF better support their league.</p>
<p>I wish USL the best of luck but the best thing you can do is get rid of King Marcos and run the leagues in the clubs&#8217; best interests. Not Marcos&#8217; interest, not Sporting Lisbons, Portugals, 6 people in Tampa Bay, etc.</p>
<p>NASL will be fair and fun. I hope it becomes the dominant minor league and even starts biting at the ankles of MLS, forcing them to improve and not to become complacent with their monopoly. GOOD LUCK NASL!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Superrookie - I mistakenly attributed my name analogy comment to you.  Sorry.  Whoever &quot;To Chris&quot; is, the comment was still funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Superrookie &#8211; I mistakenly attributed my name analogy comment to you.  Sorry.  Whoever &#8220;To Chris&#8221; is, the comment was still funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Quarstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Quarstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What happens in the stadium is more important than what goes on outside of it.&quot;

Is that sort of like saying, &quot;What happens in the stadium, stays in the stadium&quot;? ;)

Oh, and if you notice, this Chris is still posting, so he must be the real Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What happens in the stadium is more important than what goes on outside of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that sort of like saying, &#8220;What happens in the stadium, stays in the stadium&#8221;? <img src='http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and if you notice, this Chris is still posting, so he must be the real Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A</title>
		<link>http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2009/12/14/nasl-v-usl-update-121409/#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so everyone knows, I am NOT the &quot;Chris&quot; in this thread.  A while back I started posting as &quot;Chris A&quot;.  Superrookie, though not directed at me, I did laugh about your analogy that Chris is an unoriginal name.  (Disclaimer - it is my real name.)

I agree with BQ that personal attacks contribute nothing to otherwise intelligent discussions.   Arguing that USL/NASL are either the antichrist or your own personal savior is not a winnable argument.  Thanks BQ for keeping an eye on the posts.

I do not really care what league a Minnesota professional team plays in.  Give me a team that is entertaining, tries hard, pushes the ball up, scores some spectacular goals, makes some great tackles, connects with the fans, has fans waving a &quot;Hot Nuts&quot; flag, and runs a promotion some nights with 1$ beers for 15 minutes after a goal. Throw in good weather and I am a happy camper.

Superrookie, I think, is on the same page as me.  What happens in the stadium is more important than what goes on outside of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so everyone knows, I am NOT the &#8220;Chris&#8221; in this thread.  A while back I started posting as &#8220;Chris A&#8221;.  Superrookie, though not directed at me, I did laugh about your analogy that Chris is an unoriginal name.  (Disclaimer &#8211; it is my real name.)</p>
<p>I agree with BQ that personal attacks contribute nothing to otherwise intelligent discussions.   Arguing that USL/NASL are either the antichrist or your own personal savior is not a winnable argument.  Thanks BQ for keeping an eye on the posts.</p>
<p>I do not really care what league a Minnesota professional team plays in.  Give me a team that is entertaining, tries hard, pushes the ball up, scores some spectacular goals, makes some great tackles, connects with the fans, has fans waving a &#8220;Hot Nuts&#8221; flag, and runs a promotion some nights with 1$ beers for 15 minutes after a goal. Throw in good weather and I am a happy camper.</p>
<p>Superrookie, I think, is on the same page as me.  What happens in the stadium is more important than what goes on outside of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Quarstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Quarstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether you care to believe it or not Stephen, I keep a pretty close eye on comments and while this debate has been going on I&#039;ve also been monitoring where those comments are coming from as well as making sure the scenario I listed hasn&#039;t happened; and it hasn&#039;t up until the last several days. 

Most of the dialog here has been positive in nature and well thought out. I appreciate that. As well, it&#039;s not just my site but many of the sites as well as discussion boards that has led me to that conclusion along with talking to folks all across the US. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m wrong on this opinion. Again, that is not to say I am personally all in favor of the NASL. I think the NASL has many great ideas that USL need to incorporate to stay viable as a league. I don&#039;t disagree with those that say NASL seems to have a better business model nor do I disagree with those that say the people leading NASL are unproven and may be spending too much money. 

As stated previously, I also didn&#039;t like NuRocks approach to this issue and feel they could very well have avoided this mess with a different and more conciliatory approach.  I don&#039;t believe in things being black and white. It&#039;s a far to simplistic approach to complicated issues. 

Though this several month journey I&#039;ve talked to USL employees that were not entirely happy with their own organizations dealings with this issue and have also talked to folks on the TOA that felt the same way about their organization. 

My best guess is that this issue will be resolved through resolution, and I&#039;m guessing there will be parties on both sides that will not be happy with that. Oh well, lets get on with planning for the 2010 season and making it all it can be. The league will get plenty of attention/scrutiny after this past years issues and with the World Cup this summer. Lets come together and make the most of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you care to believe it or not Stephen, I keep a pretty close eye on comments and while this debate has been going on I&#8217;ve also been monitoring where those comments are coming from as well as making sure the scenario I listed hasn&#8217;t happened; and it hasn&#8217;t up until the last several days. </p>
<p>Most of the dialog here has been positive in nature and well thought out. I appreciate that. As well, it&#8217;s not just my site but many of the sites as well as discussion boards that has led me to that conclusion along with talking to folks all across the US. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m wrong on this opinion. Again, that is not to say I am personally all in favor of the NASL. I think the NASL has many great ideas that USL need to incorporate to stay viable as a league. I don&#8217;t disagree with those that say NASL seems to have a better business model nor do I disagree with those that say the people leading NASL are unproven and may be spending too much money. </p>
<p>As stated previously, I also didn&#8217;t like NuRocks approach to this issue and feel they could very well have avoided this mess with a different and more conciliatory approach.  I don&#8217;t believe in things being black and white. It&#8217;s a far to simplistic approach to complicated issues. </p>
<p>Though this several month journey I&#8217;ve talked to USL employees that were not entirely happy with their own organizations dealings with this issue and have also talked to folks on the TOA that felt the same way about their organization. </p>
<p>My best guess is that this issue will be resolved through resolution, and I&#8217;m guessing there will be parties on both sides that will not be happy with that. Oh well, lets get on with planning for the 2010 season and making it all it can be. The league will get plenty of attention/scrutiny after this past years issues and with the World Cup this summer. Lets come together and make the most of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A strong edge in public sentiment seems to be going towards the new proposed NASL league.&quot;

&quot;it was not hard to find that you were the same person that has left 8 different email address all with ridiculous pro NASL comments.&quot;

So how do we divide &quot;strong edge&quot; by &quot;8&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A strong edge in public sentiment seems to be going towards the new proposed NASL league.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;it was not hard to find that you were the same person that has left 8 different email address all with ridiculous pro NASL comments.&#8221;</p>
<p>So how do we divide &#8220;strong edge&#8221; by &#8220;8&#8243;?</p>
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