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	<title>Comments on: Commissioner David Downs Discusses Recent Events in the NASL – Part II</title>
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		<title>By: Justin Wiese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Wiese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well every rumor has some truth to it. Indy gets over looked in these expansion talks. Nasl goes where owners want to create a team. No owners then st Louis doesn&#039;t get a team or any other city. It&#039;s a business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well every rumor has some truth to it. Indy gets over looked in these expansion talks. Nasl goes where owners want to create a team. No owners then st Louis doesn&#8217;t get a team or any other city. It&#8217;s a business.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wait nasl in indy
is it a rumor justin or is it true]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait nasl in indy<br />
is it a rumor justin or is it true</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Wiese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Wiese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nasl expansion to Indianapolis. Put it on the board and mark it down. If they announce 2 New teams we get one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasl expansion to Indianapolis. Put it on the board and mark it down. If they announce 2 New teams we get one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: footy76</title>
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		<dc:creator>footy76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@GaelForce As for your firs point I would be more excided if those three had had the same lay out a Rochester but I don’t think they do. Indy might me similar in size to Rochester but I don’t know never been to Rochester or Northern Virginia. I also have not heard of any clubs in Indy or any of the other three city that dose somewhat as well as the Rhinos. Rochester would be ideal they been in the soccer game dating all away back to 1967.  As for Northern Virginia I seen the planes and very good plan I might add I just question the location it’s seem to be out in the middle of nowhere. I understand that NASL need stability hey!!! you take what you can get and if  an owner the money to throw at a team so be it. I also understand even MLS has team out in the middle of nowhere and faraway suburb and they have trouble even with the tons money being thrown at them by single entity.  I respect the risk these own are taking but I hope they have the money to survive. I think city like Northern Virginia should have a club but I don’t think ever club should compete in the big times it just not feasible far as  for scheduling, travel and club rosters  are not that big enough for league, CCL and USOC as is you would have to water your roster down to compete.  I do think every city need a club but I think that’s   what D3 is for let them build up their fan base and attendance that way they bring something to the table.  That’s what makes Orlando to exciting they are building their brand and a stadium as a fan I take very seriously and am very excited.  I hate to say this but what sells soccer to some causal fan and TV is the international player and supporter in the crowd.  A 9,000 seat stadium is not going to be product that they can sell and it especially if it’s not sold out. That’s why Galaxy, Timbers, RSL, Sounders  are on the TV more than the other clubs its sellable. Not saying a small team with a small stadium is not important just saying the lower division is a better niche.  

As for your second point, I stand corrected I did know some clubs choose to cross play and I was under the impression by an article I read that some rugby clubs are having trouble with their attendance. Never meant to say rugby was not popular just not enough in some cities to support itself.  “It’s for that reason too that Pro/Rel is never going to happen. You don’t pay that money to fall into the 2nd division.” I with you on that, that’s why I think if it is ever going to happen it is going to happen from the top down. The reason I said mix the two different leagues my thinking was that some NASL club would be able to compete with MLS head to head if put in the same league if the quality is there. For example like if Islander, RailHawks and Rowdies were   Canadian clubs and compete in a league with Whitecaps, TFC, and Impact those clubs would not beat NASL all the time.  Like I said in one of my last post the same argument you use for Pro/Rel is the same argument you can use for Canada having its own league it just make sense will it happen is another question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GaelForce As for your firs point I would be more excided if those three had had the same lay out a Rochester but I don’t think they do. Indy might me similar in size to Rochester but I don’t know never been to Rochester or Northern Virginia. I also have not heard of any clubs in Indy or any of the other three city that dose somewhat as well as the Rhinos. Rochester would be ideal they been in the soccer game dating all away back to 1967.  As for Northern Virginia I seen the planes and very good plan I might add I just question the location it’s seem to be out in the middle of nowhere. I understand that NASL need stability hey!!! you take what you can get and if  an owner the money to throw at a team so be it. I also understand even MLS has team out in the middle of nowhere and faraway suburb and they have trouble even with the tons money being thrown at them by single entity.  I respect the risk these own are taking but I hope they have the money to survive. I think city like Northern Virginia should have a club but I don’t think ever club should compete in the big times it just not feasible far as  for scheduling, travel and club rosters  are not that big enough for league, CCL and USOC as is you would have to water your roster down to compete.  I do think every city need a club but I think that’s   what D3 is for let them build up their fan base and attendance that way they bring something to the table.  That’s what makes Orlando to exciting they are building their brand and a stadium as a fan I take very seriously and am very excited.  I hate to say this but what sells soccer to some causal fan and TV is the international player and supporter in the crowd.  A 9,000 seat stadium is not going to be product that they can sell and it especially if it’s not sold out. That’s why Galaxy, Timbers, RSL, Sounders  are on the TV more than the other clubs its sellable. Not saying a small team with a small stadium is not important just saying the lower division is a better niche.  </p>
<p>As for your second point, I stand corrected I did know some clubs choose to cross play and I was under the impression by an article I read that some rugby clubs are having trouble with their attendance. Never meant to say rugby was not popular just not enough in some cities to support itself.  “It’s for that reason too that Pro/Rel is never going to happen. You don’t pay that money to fall into the 2nd division.” I with you on that, that’s why I think if it is ever going to happen it is going to happen from the top down. The reason I said mix the two different leagues my thinking was that some NASL club would be able to compete with MLS head to head if put in the same league if the quality is there. For example like if Islander, RailHawks and Rowdies were   Canadian clubs and compete in a league with Whitecaps, TFC, and Impact those clubs would not beat NASL all the time.  Like I said in one of my last post the same argument you use for Pro/Rel is the same argument you can use for Canada having its own league it just make sense will it happen is another question.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fort lauderdale strikers is better than miami strikers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fort lauderdale strikers is better than miami strikers</p>
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		<title>By: NASL-MLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NASL-MLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[N A S L / MLS   Revival

San Diego Sockers

Miami Strikers

Tampa Bay Rowdies

New York Cosmos

Los Angeles Aztecs

All These Teams Will Be Successful in Professional Soccer At Present Time.

 Cheers,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N A S L / MLS   Revival</p>
<p>San Diego Sockers</p>
<p>Miami Strikers</p>
<p>Tampa Bay Rowdies</p>
<p>New York Cosmos</p>
<p>Los Angeles Aztecs</p>
<p>All These Teams Will Be Successful in Professional Soccer At Present Time.</p>
<p> Cheers,</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GaelForce</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaelForce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure what excitement you want to get from a city without even giving them a chance. In that case, Rochester might be classed as similar to Indy/Sacramento/Northern Virginia. If the Rhinos were only coming into the league you might think &quot;Oh Rochester, thats a so-so idea for expansion&quot; yet Rochester has probably been one of the most exciting sub-MLS teams ever. I don&#039;t see how San Fransisco, Calgary and Las Vegas sound more exciting. The NASL needs stability, not cities getting teams for the sake of it. That has been proven not to work and the USSF standards are in place to ensure that the owners are strong and commited.

As for your second point, 2 of the leagues you mentioned - Wales and Switzerland are involved in cross border play. Swansea and Cardiff City play in the English leagues and all of Liechtenstein&#039;s teams play in Switzerland. As for Rugby, it&#039;s one of the top 3 sports in this part of the world! The Pro12 Rugby league is all the best sides from Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Italy. The reason for it is that each country can have 2/3/4 big teams in one big league instead of 10 below average ones each in 4 leagues which appears to be  similar case to Canada and Puerto Rico.

As for the difference between the MLS and NASL Canadian teams, that&#039;s easy. It&#039;s about $40million. That&#039;s the price Joey Saputo paid to play in the MLS against LA Galaxy, Seattle Sounders and New York Red Bulls. He&#039;s not just gonna turn around and let the CSA absorb him into a league where he suddenly has to play the Regina Mooses or whatever. Never gonna happen. Its for that reason too that Pro/Rel is never gonna happen. You don&#039;t pay that money to fall into the 2nd division.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what excitement you want to get from a city without even giving them a chance. In that case, Rochester might be classed as similar to Indy/Sacramento/Northern Virginia. If the Rhinos were only coming into the league you might think &#8220;Oh Rochester, thats a so-so idea for expansion&#8221; yet Rochester has probably been one of the most exciting sub-MLS teams ever. I don&#8217;t see how San Fransisco, Calgary and Las Vegas sound more exciting. The NASL needs stability, not cities getting teams for the sake of it. That has been proven not to work and the USSF standards are in place to ensure that the owners are strong and commited.</p>
<p>As for your second point, 2 of the leagues you mentioned &#8211; Wales and Switzerland are involved in cross border play. Swansea and Cardiff City play in the English leagues and all of Liechtenstein&#8217;s teams play in Switzerland. As for Rugby, it&#8217;s one of the top 3 sports in this part of the world! The Pro12 Rugby league is all the best sides from Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Italy. The reason for it is that each country can have 2/3/4 big teams in one big league instead of 10 below average ones each in 4 leagues which appears to be  similar case to Canada and Puerto Rico.</p>
<p>As for the difference between the MLS and NASL Canadian teams, that&#8217;s easy. It&#8217;s about $40million. That&#8217;s the price Joey Saputo paid to play in the MLS against LA Galaxy, Seattle Sounders and New York Red Bulls. He&#8217;s not just gonna turn around and let the CSA absorb him into a league where he suddenly has to play the Regina Mooses or whatever. Never gonna happen. Its for that reason too that Pro/Rel is never gonna happen. You don&#8217;t pay that money to fall into the 2nd division.</p>
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		<title>By: footy76</title>
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		<dc:creator>footy76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@AmericanizeSoccer.com  I’m always thing about the business side and finish product and that’s what sport is first business. If  Pro/Rel  happen and with no salary cap you either going to have to have a club owner that has a lot of money to throw away or strong supporter  winning  is not going  guaranteed success. You can just win in D3 maybe get far in D2 maybe??? But after that you going to need lots of money or strong fan support because fans put butt in seat that brings money to buy the player that you will need to compete in D2 and D1. If you look at soccer now you see the haves and have not and the gap is widening. Size matter a 9,000 stadium is not being you enough revenue to compete. What about TV right if it’s a direct contract with the club fine if its league that something else is hard to sell a league with 9,000 seat stadiums  that may not be sold out  that’s not the slick product TV is looking for.  Without stadium regulation we would be taking down the level of a league and soccer just for small or medium size city to have a club just for the sake of having a club. If they can bring a fan base of 18,00 I think there is  a good chance they can’t compete]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AmericanizeSoccer.com  I’m always thing about the business side and finish product and that’s what sport is first business. If  Pro/Rel  happen and with no salary cap you either going to have to have a club owner that has a lot of money to throw away or strong supporter  winning  is not going  guaranteed success. You can just win in D3 maybe get far in D2 maybe??? But after that you going to need lots of money or strong fan support because fans put butt in seat that brings money to buy the player that you will need to compete in D2 and D1. If you look at soccer now you see the haves and have not and the gap is widening. Size matter a 9,000 stadium is not being you enough revenue to compete. What about TV right if it’s a direct contract with the club fine if its league that something else is hard to sell a league with 9,000 seat stadiums  that may not be sold out  that’s not the slick product TV is looking for.  Without stadium regulation we would be taking down the level of a league and soccer just for small or medium size city to have a club just for the sake of having a club. If they can bring a fan base of 18,00 I think there is  a good chance they can’t compete</p>
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		<title>By: footy76</title>
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		<dc:creator>footy76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@GaelForce  I understand what you are saying  realistically there is no way those city I talk about  is going to get a team anytime soon. But forgive me if I don’t jump up for joy in excitement for the expansion cities that are lineup.  San Diego Flash Phoenix and LA sound like alright city and seem like they have some promise.  Those other expansion mentioned like Loudoun County Sacramento, Indy sorry but Personally I think S.F Las Vegas Quicksilvers, Calgary United sounds better cities. But you work with what you are given.

@GaelForce Your right about making Canada do anything but there is the evidence to say otherwise. Throughout Europe even the small country like Wales, Netherlands, Switzerland have their own league. You mention the argument that women’s soccer   and rugby use cross country play in some places in Europe those sports may not be popular and I think cross play was done more for a survival thing. You also mention the argument about how clubs were in different leagues, but if you look  MLS and NASL they have both have  clubs that play below league stander and the only difference  between the Canadian club in different leagues is that some are D1 and D2 not that much gap between them ,so it would not be a big deal to throw all the clubs into one league.   Canada need its own league and I’m just saying if FIFA or however it happens that MLS and U.S soccer becomes an open league and Rel/Pro would make sense the same argument that U.S fans make for open league and Rel/Pro is the same argument that can use for Canada starting their own league. If Open League and Rel/Pro ever happens?????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GaelForce  I understand what you are saying  realistically there is no way those city I talk about  is going to get a team anytime soon. But forgive me if I don’t jump up for joy in excitement for the expansion cities that are lineup.  San Diego Flash Phoenix and LA sound like alright city and seem like they have some promise.  Those other expansion mentioned like Loudoun County Sacramento, Indy sorry but Personally I think S.F Las Vegas Quicksilvers, Calgary United sounds better cities. But you work with what you are given.</p>
<p>@GaelForce Your right about making Canada do anything but there is the evidence to say otherwise. Throughout Europe even the small country like Wales, Netherlands, Switzerland have their own league. You mention the argument that women’s soccer   and rugby use cross country play in some places in Europe those sports may not be popular and I think cross play was done more for a survival thing. You also mention the argument about how clubs were in different leagues, but if you look  MLS and NASL they have both have  clubs that play below league stander and the only difference  between the Canadian club in different leagues is that some are D1 and D2 not that much gap between them ,so it would not be a big deal to throw all the clubs into one league.   Canada need its own league and I’m just saying if FIFA or however it happens that MLS and U.S soccer becomes an open league and Rel/Pro would make sense the same argument that U.S fans make for open league and Rel/Pro is the same argument that can use for Canada starting their own league. If Open League and Rel/Pro ever happens?????</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 03:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so MLS trademark two new york soccer team name 
also with resistance from queens residents about stadium and cosmos keeping mouth shut

i see no communication between organizations

well lets wait too November to hear announcements

i say if queens is giving you trouble move to brooklyn 

i felt queens was going to be trouble in the beginning

and when the cosmos was doing their marketing push in 2010 
brooklyn was more accommodating

they have a culture that can support soccer

the question is finding place

i say somewhere near Barclay center-somewhere in brooklyn closer to manhattan

new york cosmos needs to speak more before they become irrelevant 

i say the cosmos should start marketing now like they did in 2010]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so MLS trademark two new york soccer team name<br />
also with resistance from queens residents about stadium and cosmos keeping mouth shut</p>
<p>i see no communication between organizations</p>
<p>well lets wait too November to hear announcements</p>
<p>i say if queens is giving you trouble move to brooklyn </p>
<p>i felt queens was going to be trouble in the beginning</p>
<p>and when the cosmos was doing their marketing push in 2010<br />
brooklyn was more accommodating</p>
<p>they have a culture that can support soccer</p>
<p>the question is finding place</p>
<p>i say somewhere near Barclay center-somewhere in brooklyn closer to manhattan</p>
<p>new york cosmos needs to speak more before they become irrelevant </p>
<p>i say the cosmos should start marketing now like they did in 2010</p>
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