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Interview with Bill Peterson, New NASL Commissioner

2012 November 27
by Brian Quarstad

New NASL Commissioner, Bill Peterson.

The North American Soccer League announced today that Bill Peterson will take over as the league’s new commissioner. Peterson took control of the league on November 19 after a 45-day search which was set in motion after former league commissioner David Downs announced his early resignation on October 5th, something the league knew about well before his formal announcement to the public. The NASL held off announcing Peterson’s appointment until today because of the Thanksgiving holiday.

Peterson has been involved in sports from a young age. He grew up playing American football and was even a free agent linebacker in 1987 with the Los Angeles Raiders.

He started working in the business side of sports when he was just 27 years old, going to work for the NFL Europe League, and spent 10 years living abroad. He was Football Operations Director for the Frankfurt Galaxy, General Manager of the Amsterdam Admirals, Director of Football Development for the league, Managing Director of NFL Europe and eventually become the President of the league.

Why might a former NFL player and president of NFL Europe be a good choice to run the 2-year-old North American Soccer League? A closer look at Peterson’s experiences clarifies why executives from the NASL fingered the former American football man for the job.

“From the early days of being in Europe I became a fan of the game,” said the new NASL Commissioner by phone on Tuesday. He tells a story of a visit to Camp Nou in 1991, only three weeks after arriving in Europe. Peterson explained that he was in Barcelona for an American football game. He and two of his co-workers heard there was a big soccer game in town. They were curious and thought they would check things out. According to Peterson, they snuck into Camp Nou through a back gate. “We walked into the middle of that 100,000 seat stadium and it was amazing! The atmosphere, the amount of people and the passion, it all hit home.”

Peterson lived in Holland, England and Germany and says he has had many of those sort of moments in the 10 years he lived there, being at the right places at some key moments. While living in Frankfurt he watched Eintracht win the Bundesliga 2 title and says he got to watch an entire city light up with passion. He was also in Amsterdam in 1995 when Ajax won the Champions League. He has also seen countless European matches of significance be it Champions League finals or derbies like Arsenal vs. Chelsea.

“As a sportsman you see the level they are playing at and immediately recognize that these are world class athletes doing things that the average humans could never do,” Peterson said.

The crowds and the passion of those fans also struck Peterson, particularly being an American football person. “In the early days I might not have even understood everything that was going on down on the field. But to see the intensity, the level of play and the passion, it immediately attracted me.”

Peterson returned home and went to work for AEG for 6 years. He sat on the board of the Chicago Fire and helped them through their quest to find a stadium. He did the same thing while working with the Los Angeles Galaxy and became managing director of the Home Depot Center. In his early years with AEG, he sat on Major League Soccer’s Board of Governors, Finance Committee and Competition Committee.

He then spent 4 years with Centerplate, a publicly held corporation where he was Executive Vice President of Operations. Centerplate is one of the largest hospitality companies in the world, with 250 North American sports, entertainment and convention venues. Peterson oversaw 140 facilities and managed 28,000 employees. The corporation generated nearly $850,000,000 in revenues including: Culinary, Merchandise Sales, Restaurants, Retail Operations, Client Relations, and Facility Management/Operations.

In one of Peterson’s more recent ventures he finished a not-so-successful stint with the United Football League which has since folded. Peterson has a lawsuit against the league for unpaid wages. He’s reluctant to talk about the situation but says he has learned lessons along the way at each of his former positions which he believes has readied him for the job of NASL Commissioner. In particular he points to his job with AEG and the NFL Europe League as the two most important.

“In the early days, there was a high level of commitment and passion with some great leadership at AEG, which helped build the company,” explained Peterson.

With the NFL Europe, the lessons were different but just as important. “We were working without a plan,” says Peterson. “You were working overseas and I had to get up every morning and figure out how you were going to do your job and do it well.”

Peterson knows people may draw correlations between himself and Commissioner Don Garber, who also worked with the NFL in Europe before taking over the reins of MLS. “Don’s a great person and a great commissioner,” Peterson said. “I’ve worked for him and with him and we’ve had a good relationship now for 15 years. That will continue for sure.”

“As I sit here today, I am now comfortable with almost every aspect of professional sports and if there is something that I haven’t seen, I have a good group of people around me and I know how to work with a group to make good decisions,” said Peterson.

Peterson states that his work ethic combined with perseverance may be some of his best attributes. He enjoys pushing things hard and watching organizations grow and develop with a determination to succeed. He says in the short term he wants to continue assisting the current NASL teams in building relevance and becoming professional sports entities in their cities that create excitement and passion.

Long term, he not only wants to grow the league but wants to ensure the NASL stays strong and successful and that they are helping to  grow the game in North America.

Peterson finished by emphasizing the importance of the fans of the NASL teams explaining that the league needs to service its supporters.

The 48-year-old Peterson is the father of two daughters and resides in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida. He is an avid cyclist and is currently the Chairman of the Board of USA Cycling and a member of the Trustee board of USPRO Cycling, both are volunteer positions.

47 Responses
  1. November 27, 2012

    Welcome Commish!

  2. evan permalink
    November 27, 2012

    wow that’s an impressive resume. but what happend with NFL Europe? and with the UFL?

  3. doug permalink
    November 27, 2012

    I don’t much care what he did before. I want to see results going forward.

    1) Grow the league so that there can be multiple “Conferences” (east/west)
    2) Some kind of TV and a requirement that there be at least 3 Cameras capturing the action for every game (midfield and each end).
    3) Develop Promotion/Relegation either within NASL, or in a collaborative effort with MLS or USL-Pro.
    4) We need an Unbalanced Schedule. one with fewer travel miles. Expand to the Central/Mountain time zones to reduce travel overall.

  4. Bart permalink
    November 27, 2012

    Great! This gentleman wants… “NASL to remain strong….

    He had better take his trip down south to Brazil and kiss the ring of those that fund the dream. NASL is only “strong” because of that.

    Strategically, he is probably a great choice, however.

  5. Lego7 permalink
    November 27, 2012

    Stover with the Cosmos, then Peterson as commish. I’m noticing a trend of former MLS employees filling in for positions within NASL, which can only be positive with the amount of experience they bring. I’ve been fairly satisfied with the many big decisions by the NASL BoG’s, that for ONCE, despite the hard work that still lies ahead, I’m less worried about whether second division will be around the following year.

  6. November 27, 2012

    @Doug “I don’t much care what he did before. ”

    Really? Have you ever hired someone before? You better care what that person did in the past.

    Also, the league already has standards for video streaming and I believe they require 4 cameras not 3. This issue isn’t the cameras. It’s the people behind the cameras and often times there lack of experience and poor direction from producers who don’t know how to produce a soccer match. On top of that is poor editing equipment. Again, there are standards already set in place by the league but even cheap editing equipment can be expensive. Very few of the teams have replay because of that. The more expensive the equipment the better you can produce a quality streamed match.

    Promotion/relegation? Really. We going down that road again?

  7. CoconutMonkey permalink
    November 27, 2012

    “Peterson knows people may draw correlations between himself and Commissioner Don Garber, who also worked with the NFL in Europe before taking over the reins of MLS.”

    Read my mind!

    Seems like he’s pretty well qualified for the job.

  8. Jspech permalink
    November 27, 2012

    As a filmmaker, i know There are way too many cheap Editing options for that to be a reason for a bad telecast. a Mac book, Final Cut Pro, & Hard Drive, an editor & logger right there on site. That is if quality is coming from live cameras.

    As one who hate P/R convo, this did pop in my brain yesterday, must be what I was smoking, but here is an American spin on P/R (ps: I’m not a fan boy of it)

    What if UslPro champ, plays Nasl
    team w/ least amount of points)
    If Uslpro wins– This team (UslPro champ), go up to Nasl, while Nasl team go down
    If Nasl team wins they stay in Nasl

    Just get the sense NASL is about to become a semi/ minor league to NASL. Had that feeling since Downs stepped down. Time will tell

  9. Jspech permalink
    November 27, 2012

    Semi/ minor league to MLS

  10. Tom permalink
    November 27, 2012

    Maybe we can get Congress to include pro/rel as part of the Fiscal Cliff negotiations…….maybe that will quiet down the pro/rel fantasy boys (Big Soccer refers to this topic as “whack-a-mole”). BQ – sorry for the political reference.

  11. Lego7 permalink
    November 27, 2012

    @Jspech

    I don’t see how those two leagues would want to rotate clubs amongst one another after NASL owners risked lawsuits from USL for breaking away and forming their own league. Why would they want to return to the old business habit they’ve been trying to separate from?

    I would rather see pro/rel be experimented at the amateur levels in the 5th tier.

  12. November 27, 2012

    Jspech, your argument is dead in the water as most USL PRO teams could not meet the high financial standards nor the stadium standards that US Soccer has set for NASL to make sure their owners are truly viable.

  13. Rob Routson permalink
    November 27, 2012

    Good Luck to Mr. Peterson and I wish him all the best. Please no more artificial surfaces with football/lacrosse/field hockey lines.

  14. DMAN permalink
    November 27, 2012

    I love what NASL is doing and the direction they are headed. NASL is staying active in the media and starting to set the standards for Div. 2 soccer.

    What if these teams would have stayed in the USL and never broke off? I am starting to see why they did so. They are moving in a very smart direction. What is the USL up to these days? They have been awful quite. USL needs to take a page from NASL and get their act together before they fade away.

    MLS has Don Garber and NASL has Don Garber Jr. while USL has Tim Holt & Papadakis. I know who I would want leading my team. Time will tell where all this is headed. Good luck Mr. Peterson!

  15. Mike permalink
    November 27, 2012

    Speaking of dead in the water, can we let pro/rel mercifully drown?

    Back on topic; looks like a decent enough hire. Good diverse background in areas other than Soccer, a definite plus. I assume he’ll be more tight lipped than Downsy was, we can hope anyway.

    Rob won’t be pleased when he sees where the Cosmos are playing. Can we add no baseball stadiums to that list too? Err…okay, no more new ones starting in 2015 maybe?

    Speaking of the Cosmos, I wonder what the new guy thinks of that situation (assuming the rumors are true).

  16. Mike permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @DMAN,

    The NASL isn’t starting to set any standards for D2 Soccer, the USSF already did that. The NASL has to follow those standards to stay in existence. Had the split not occurred, those standards still would have been put in place.

    As for USL-Pro, they have a Senior Director instead of a Commissioner (Chris Economides). His qualifications are every bit as solid as that “Don Garber Jr” fellow. They’re also adding one more expansion team next season than the NASL is. Or is it one and a half perhaps? Split season indeed!

  17. Fotbalist permalink
    November 28, 2012

    It really looks like NASL is taking some serious steps in becoming a true D2, by tapping into the leadership of and relationships with the MLS. I don’t know anything about this Bill Peterson fellow, but his resume proves that he has a plethora of valuable connections in the US/MLS as well as in Europe. This can only be helpful. I do believe the NASL has every chance of becoming a sort of ‘The Championship’ is England.

    @doug & jspech
    I’m a big fan of pro/rel, but this is getting a little crazy.

    Welcome to the new Commish!

  18. Jspech permalink
    November 28, 2012

    Take it easy fellas not a P/ R fan boy, just sharing a thought.
    Right now I am more keen on how Nasl can work to get more MLS reserves in their. D2 soccer will continue to get
    Better just cause player pool is getting bigger.
    Not a small thing w/ 3/2 S season kickoff. This will affect NASL roster
    Option

  19. November 28, 2012

    @Jspech, as I have stated here previously, the NASL is no longer heading in a direction of pulling MLS reserve teams into their league but are now looking more seriously at working with MLS in taking players in on loan to give them more playing time and that might also work the opposite way to allow them to look at NASL players.

    Perhaps Bart or Mike can give us more insight into what USL is doing with working with MLS in incorporating reserve teams into their league. Last I heard NASL had stepped away from the discussions after MLS was willing to put up very little if any money at all for the project. USL PRO was looking at some creative ways to make it work, like playing their league schedule and then having occasional reserve matches as well. Not sure how all that would work in the standings. As was pointed out here quite a while ago, a number of USL PRO teams out east already have good partnerships with MLS teams. Again, said it many times here, but for a number of reasons I’m not going to take the time to go into now, I think in many ways USL PRO is a much better fit for the MLS Reserve League.

    @Mike, I asked that very question (regarding NY and the rumors of playing only the second half of the season) at yesterdays press conference. He skirted the issue and said it would be better addressed when he visits New York next week.

    “I don’t really want to address that,” said Peterson. “I think that’s really a team issue and if there is an issue, and I’m not saying there is, I think after I go up there and get a better feel for where they are at in their plans and what their plans actually are, they will be in a better position to address that.”

    So I am guessing we will know for sure next week. But everyone I know that has knowledge of the situation is telling me they are not ready to play the first half of the season. I also wondered what Peterson thought of this. Of course he would say he supports it but…

    On that same note, the NASL better be ready to have a big black eye over this one IF it happens. I have been in touch with a number of bigger soccer journalist in this country that have wondered what is going on with this situation. They feel if the Cosmos only play a half season it delegitimizes the league. I have to agree.

  20. Max permalink
    November 28, 2012

    The Cosmos have a multi-year history of being all hat and no cattle. It would be far better for them to field a so-so team in the first half of the season then to sit out a year. And it is far better for them to sit out a year then play half a season. A legitimate league cannot have one team play by a different set of rules for financial gain.

  21. Norbert permalink
    November 28, 2012

    I agree, that would be a big black eye. A shaky, seat of the pants start up would still be preferable in my opinion. They have roughly 2 and a half months. Hope they can make it.

  22. Sean permalink
    November 28, 2012

    Welcome Commissioner Peterson. I’m just glad a well qualified replacement was found in such a short amount of time.

    Someone regurgitated pro/rel earlier in this thread and we all know that a system based on performance will never work. But having a team in one league that has the ambition, finances and facilities to move to a higher league that applies to join the higher a league and gets accepted can be your promotion. But there should be some kind of compensation to the lower league.

    Also, I’m looking forward to the new format next season. Any league in any sport whose ‘Champion’ is simply the team that playing best at the end of the season makes a complete farce of the regular season. Especially if that team barely qualifies for the playoffs.

    Lastly NY Cosmos is a huge plus for NASL no ones going to remember or care if they start in the middle of the season that’s just bull.

  23. Bob permalink
    November 28, 2012

    NASL needs to build up into a strong second division. If in ten years NASL has 18 clubs playing in their own stadiums with packed houses we better get some promotion/relegation.

    American fans want promotion/relegation. USSF, MLS, and NASL need to work together to make it happen. They need a 10 year plan.

    Lets do this!!

  24. Max permalink
    November 28, 2012

    I agree with your points Sean, save this one: the idea that Playoffs make a mockery of the regular season (not that I’m arguing with you on that one) but having a new team show up and start play with fresh players halfway through the regular season doesn’t.

  25. Dave permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @ Sean – BS. Let’s say under this new format that the 1st half winner guts their team and some players leave for MLS. Or a few players get hurt. Or they just stink in the 2nd half. How are they worthy of playing for any championship? Anymore than a team that gets hot in the playoffs? Maybe they were just lucky early in the season?

    And then tell Minny and Tampa fans their championships weren’t worthy. Go do it.

    The NASL playoffs in 2012 were awesome and exciting. Getting rid of them wasn’t exactly the smartest thing in the world. Americans love playoffs. I hope the new Commish brings them back.

    And yeah, if the Cosmos only play one half it makes the NASL look mickey mouse.

    @Bob – Lay off the sauce. Anyone that brings up pro/rel should be ignored at this point.

  26. jspech permalink
    November 28, 2012

    BQ, here in NY never heard of this 1/2 season start deal. The Cosmos do have a Q & A setup this saturday with their supporters clubs, La Banda Del Cosmos & Borough Boys, I am sure some answers should come from that. To be quite honest, maybe nationally & overall this may be a black eye for the league, but I think it’s a positive for the Cosmos to start in the summer.

    1. They are playing in Hempstead, LI, very far from NYC, only commuter train, expressway, no subway, plus while it will not be Minn. cold in April , early May, it’s cold for NYC’ers.

    Now starting up end of July-August, makes way for sense for the team, fans, Kids re out of school, and sizeable amount of NYCer’s heads in tht direction every wkend or for the day, plus gaining some tractions in this market. It is pretty hard to get notice out here. No one talks Red Bulls out here, rarely see highlights on local news.

    Consider team history, large crowds @Giant Stadium, (that’s what people in NYC says, when they talk cosmos, die-hard soccer folks or casual fans, large crowds. Now a 13000 seat stadium mostly empty in cold spring months in the suburbs will not be good visually for a rebirth. That type of visual stays with NYC’ers, it would be hard for the team to shake that for there stay in NASL however long. People just like to be where it’s happening out here, call us front runners, but that’s what it is.
    Also consider NBA Nets are grabbing big attention right now, if the Knicks & Nets are making playoff maybe playing each other, forgetaboutit. No one will notice sad to say, not where the team is playing. Not to mention Springing training.

    In short I can definitely see the logic in starting in the summer.
    They will only have baseball to compete against ( Mets sucks, My Yanks will be iffy), NBA done, NHL well?? & NFL training camp starting up.

    School will be out, & a lot of NYers go out on the island. Plus marketing,,
    If I was running the Cosmos I would start in the second half

  27. sean permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @Dave – Teams losing players between a winning season and anything that might qualify them for happens throughout the game, Concacaf/European champions league whatever, that’s part of the game.

    Playoffs can be exciting, sure, but lets stop pretending that the winning team of a playoff represents the best team from your league for the season. It simply not true. If you need playoffs, first crown your league champion then enter the top however many teams into a separate tournament.

    Just my opinion.

  28. Bob permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @Dave

    you lay off the sauce. All i said is if we build up NASL to a strong league then we will get pro/rel. It’s what the American soccer fans wan’t. I support my local NASL club and all the supporters talk about building up the NASL to connect it to MLS for pro/rel. We are realistic thought. It’s not gonna happen for quite some time. Soccer is a global game. There are around 150 soccer leagues on the planet and all but 2 of them have pro/rel.

    As far as playoffs go. I disagree with Sean. I do think we need a post-season tournament. However, I wish they would separate the regular season from the post-season. Make the supporters shield more important and go to one league table to make the chase for the trophy easier to follow. Then take the top 8 for the MLS Cup.

    I find it odd when people say “Americans love playoffs. ” Lots of countries love playoffs. The World Cup is essentially a playoff. Same with the Champions league.

  29. Bob permalink
    November 28, 2012

    edit..actually i agree with Sean. Separate regular season from MLS Cup. Regular season winner gets league title trophy and top 8 go into MLS Cup.

  30. Bart permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @Bob

    American fans want promotion/relegation. USSF, MLS, and NASL need to work together to make it happen.

    I am terribly sorry, but what planet did you just wake up from? American fans are oblivious to pro/rel. PERIOD. It is a foreign concept that, while potentially exciting to the soccer informed, is not even remotely on the forefront of any true blooded US citizen.

    Forget the fact that an MLS owner pays $40,000,000 for the privilege to join MLS, and new NASL teams get in for free in NASL. The disconnect to this is so friggin’ obvious, even my wife understands this, and she can provide the best beating to a man that a woman could ever do (I love you my bride, just don’t hurt me again, please).

    @Sean, the question of whether this is a well qualified replacement has not been established yet. In his immediate previous position, Peterson bit the hand that fed him as the league that hired him went down. Meaning, he accepted none of the responsibility for the failure, yet demanded full compensation as an executive. In Wall Street words, he was a bad inside trader. To the rest of the world, he was a disgruntled employee.

    Grasshoppers…..one must feel the oncoming winds to determine whether the thunderstorms are coming. Close your eyes and breath.

  31. Bob permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @Bart. American soccer fans want promotion/relegation. Americans at large may be oblivious but AMERICAN SOCCER FANS are not. It is not a foreign concept. American soccer fans watch the EPL more than they do MLS. You anti-pro/rel American exceptionalists are a real hoot. A guy comes on here and says, “hey, if NASL in ten years has is a strong league full of clubs playing in their own SSS we can have pro/rel” and you have a hissy fit. Did it ever occur to you that one reason MLS gets such poor TV ratings is because it shuts out a 3/4 of the country? If i’m a fan of a D2 club that can get promoted you better believe im gonna watch MLS. If my club can’t get promoted then MLS is kind of irrelevant to me.

  32. Ric permalink
    November 28, 2012

    “Americans want P/R.” I would be interested in seeing the poll that would suggest that. Just saying it doesn’t make it so. Personally, for me if it happens (and it won’t for a very long time) fine. And if not so be it. I just want a strong local team to support.

  33. Mike permalink
    November 28, 2012

    Anti-pro/rel American exceptionalists…hee hee hee hee!

  34. Bob permalink
    November 28, 2012

    Ric,

    Yeah i probably shouldn’t make blanket statements. I remember there was a poll on FOX Soccer a few years ago and pro/rel had something like 70% support. Not scientific i know, but it’s my impression that pro/rel is much more popular among American soccer fans than the anti-pro/rel people would like to believe. It’s certainly very popular among other NASL fans and my soccer watching peers.

    Here is a thought question: If in 15 years NASL has 18 clubs, all playing in Soccer Specific Stadiums, with rapid fan bases and supporters clubs, great attendance etc, then what would be the argument against pro/rel?

    Because if that scenario happened the fans in NASL would want pro/rel. The players would want it, and the media (loving controversy like they do) would definitely be calling for it.

  35. sean permalink
    November 28, 2012

    @Bart – uhh, I agree with you (wasn’t expecting to say that) Peterson obviously still has to prove himself. And as far as USL Pro goes, I’d rather see San Diego Flash join that league because I believe an autonomous USL Pro West division is more important for the west coast than having a team in NASL right now.

    @Bob – You got me, a lot of my opinions about playoffs might be coming from MLS, Supporters Shield winners should be champions. Playoffs are like Humanities Mathematics, it just doesn’t add up. However I don’t believe traditional Pro/Rel will happen unless all leagues are owned by the same organization, with the same business plan.

    I like the new NASL format because I believe leagues have to be balanced. Playing each team in your league once home and once away. The team at the top of the league at the end is the best league. This way you get two teams that have won balanced leagues fairly and then have the one big ‘Playoff’ game to keep the playoff loving Americans happy. It’s just a good compromise to me.

    Again just my opinion.

  36. SA_Hooligan permalink
    November 28, 2012

    I’m with Bob. I really don’t follow MLS that much, but I do follow the NASL because that is where my team plays. I’ll catch the occasional MLS game, but I would be more involved if my team had even the remotest of chances to move up via promotion. I do follow English football from the Premier League all the way down to the Blue Square. Personally, I find the Pro/Rel battles exciting.

  37. Fotbalist permalink
    November 28, 2012

    I think we need a Pro/Rel Club where we can about that, and that only. As much as I’m a huge fan of pro/rel but it’s gotten to where almost every article includes a pro/rel comment that sparks a wildfire type discussion about it. On the one hand isn’t right, but on the other hand, perhaps it shows what our deeply seated interests are. hmmmmm

  38. evan permalink
    November 28, 2012

    hey nobody answered my question about the UFL and NFL Europe. :(
    am i gonna have to research it myself? oh no!

  39. BEASTOFNEWYORK permalink
    November 28, 2012

    MLS TV ratings increase a lot this, year and att. keeps going up. P/R is boring, who wan’ts to watch a league that only 1-5 teams have a chance to win the title. P/R and relegation is also not financially stable.Also to became a major sports league, you not only have to get soccer fans involve, you also have to get the casual sports fans. The Casual fans knows playoffs. Playoffs is also the continuing of the season, while champion league and the world cup are tournaments. P/R is never going to happen, get over it, or move to europe.

  40. Edward permalink
    November 29, 2012

    Pro/rel is what you do when you have more teams than you can feasibly fit into a single league and the only other option would be to form multiple, parallel regional leagues. That’s not problem we have in this country. Maybe if all those old USISL/USL teams from the 90s and on had stuck around. But no, we’re no where close to having so many teams we need pro/rel to sort them all.

  41. November 29, 2012

    @ Edward
    “Pro/rel is what you do when you have more teams than you can feasibly fit into a single league and the only other option would be to form multiple, parallel regional leagues. That’s not problem we have in this country.”

    Very well said Edward. We are still a long ways from that. But the point of this site and others like it is to support lower level soccer with hopes that “someday” we will be able to have that situation.

    I don’t think anyone can argue that pro/rel would make each and every match more meaningful. But that is just not a reality for anytime soon. Lets keep working towards inverting this upside down pyramid of soccer we have in this country with hopes that someday the base will be stronger or as strong as the bottom is at the present time.

    BEASTOFNEWYORK, I deleted your first comment. I have no issues with the rest of your comment but we don’t bully and name call on this site.

  42. Fotbalist permalink
    November 29, 2012

    My previous post was missing words and letters in many places, that it hardly makes sense. Sorry everyone! I’ll have to apologize to my fourth grade child for being critical of her written work. I’ll make sure to be more coherent in the future.

    @ Edward – I agree with your points, just a small correction. Pro/Rel does not refer to ‘multiple, parallel “regional” leagues’, but actually “national” leagues. There are a few systems where teams from regional leagues get promoted to a national league, but that’s something completely different. I don’t think any of the posts here referred to that.

  43. Edward permalink
    November 30, 2012

    @Footballist
    You need to reread my previous comment. I said multiple parallel regional leagues would be the ALTERNATIVE solution to the problem that pro/rel is designed to solve.

  44. Bob permalink
    November 30, 2012

    Edward,

    Can you name another country that has multiple parallel regional leagues? I didn’t think so.

    I can name over 100 that have pro/rel. Even countries that rival the US in Size : China and Russia.

  45. Edward permalink
    December 1, 2012

    Again, what i said was WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MANY TEAMS TO SORT INTO A SINGLE LEAGUE, THE OPTIONS ARE pro/rel OR multiple, parallel regional leagues. Do it like most FAs around the world (pro/rel) or do it like NCAA does with collegiate sports conferences: Pac 12, SEC, ACC, et al (multiple, parallel regional leagues). I WAS NOT ADVOCATING FOR ONE OPTION OR THE OTHER.

    Pro/rel or multiple parallel regional leagues WASN’T EVEN THE POINT of my original comment. The point was that the US/Canada DOESN’T SUFFER FROM THE PROBLEM THAT PRO?REL WAS DESIGNED TO FIX. Do we have more D1 capable teams than MLS can handle? Do we have more DII capable teams than NASL can handle? Do we have more DIII capable teams than USL-Pro can handle? Until the answer is yes to all of those questions, then we don’t have the problem than pro/rel was designed to fix.

  46. Bart permalink
    December 1, 2012

    @Edward

    Where is it stated that we don’t have enough D1 and D2 teams for each league? How does one calculate the saturation point where your hypothesis may begin to take place?

    The NCAA regionalizes the colleges through sports conferences, it does not make them “parallel leagues”. They are not regionalized due to saturation but due to travel costs, fan rivalry and other items. This is more of the USL Pro model, not that of a one equal league, but too many teams theory.

    As you probably well know, Pro/Rel does far more than just take a bunch of saturated, yet equal teams in one league and break them apart. It makes even the bottom ranked teams games interesting and competitive for survival, and that survival also accounts for major commercial endorsements that hit the teams bottom lines. You go down, you lose that revenue. A big deal.

  47. Deacon Joseph permalink
    December 1, 2012

    I support pro/rel. And I don’t support having two divisions run by guys from NFL Europe.

    I hope Peterson is trustworthy, but if Don “let’s time out for an instant replay and a huddle” Garber likes him, I am already afraid.

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